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		<title>By: Peter A</title>
		<link>https://www.zeusblog.tetrap.com/?p=827&#038;cpage=1#comment-845</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quiet, you!

I&#039;m genuinely interested as to when the next issue of TSV will be out and how it will juggle the specials and regeneration - will it look forward, or back? Or can it do both? It&#039;s not just a question of TSV of course, RTP may well face the same issue (pardon the pun). If there&#039;s a rough Christmas/New Year release date for TSV 77 then it could be quite an interesting issue indeed for that. 

It&#039;s always been the dilemma of &#039;slow media&#039; of course. The tantalising detail is in how one addresses it. Or, of course, whether one chooses to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quiet, you!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m genuinely interested as to when the next issue of TSV will be out and how it will juggle the specials and regeneration &#8211; will it look forward, or back? Or can it do both? It&#8217;s not just a question of TSV of course, RTP may well face the same issue (pardon the pun). If there&#8217;s a rough Christmas/New Year release date for TSV 77 then it could be quite an interesting issue indeed for that. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s always been the dilemma of &#8216;slow media&#8217; of course. The tantalising detail is in how one addresses it. Or, of course, whether one chooses to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jono</title>
		<link>https://www.zeusblog.tetrap.com/?p=827&#038;cpage=1#comment-844</link>
		<dc:creator>Jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting for the Ninth Doctor Dictionary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for the Ninth Doctor Dictionary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: the_other_dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>the_other_dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but two and a bit years ago the TV Guide breezily informed us the returning Timelord was going to be the Rani played by some britpop floozy.  (It was actually the Herald who let the John Sim cat out of the bag well before the UK transmission).

Hmmm, if we are taking a straw poll here I&#039;m afraid I&#039;d be on the anti side for the RT article, particularly if it&#039;s intended to be ongoing.  If 2005 proved to be a year of unprecidented and spectaular coverage it might deserve an article, but not 12 pages (there&#039;s that number again), and not closing with a online reference where we can all read the issues anyway(and as Peter pointed out, there is at least one more of those out there).  

Maybe if there were some real gems and nuggets in there something on those individually and specifically may work, but if this is going to make up (12/88*100) ~ 14% of my annual TSV&#039;age I&#039;d expect more than being told that there is a hilairious anecdote in the Boomtown issue and to look it up again &quot;if you&#039;ve kept your issue and don&#039;t recall.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but two and a bit years ago the TV Guide breezily informed us the returning Timelord was going to be the Rani played by some britpop floozy.  (It was actually the Herald who let the John Sim cat out of the bag well before the UK transmission).</p>
<p>Hmmm, if we are taking a straw poll here I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;d be on the anti side for the RT article, particularly if it&#8217;s intended to be ongoing.  If 2005 proved to be a year of unprecidented and spectaular coverage it might deserve an article, but not 12 pages (there&#8217;s that number again), and not closing with a online reference where we can all read the issues anyway(and as Peter pointed out, there is at least one more of those out there).  </p>
<p>Maybe if there were some real gems and nuggets in there something on those individually and specifically may work, but if this is going to make up (12/88*100) ~ 14% of my annual TSV&#8217;age I&#8217;d expect more than being told that there is a hilairious anecdote in the Boomtown issue and to look it up again &#8220;if you&#8217;ve kept your issue and don&#8217;t recall.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure about the final Cylon (I haven&#039;t followed the series, but have tried my best to make sure I can pick it up at some point in the future, just in case...), but the latest TV Guide breezily is telling us who is [allegedly] in the Who finale this year and whom [allegedly] they will be up against.

As for the RT article I don&#039;t entirely agree with the review either for similar reasons to Alden above, but I do agree that it&#039;s perhaps not the best use of the medium when online format allows for greater flexibilityof size, colour and so forth - in fact the DW Clippings Archive does this part pretty well already. I have mixed feelings about photos in fanzines on the whole; it&#039;s a difficult thing to do them justice sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about the final Cylon (I haven&#8217;t followed the series, but have tried my best to make sure I can pick it up at some point in the future, just in case&#8230;), but the latest TV Guide breezily is telling us who is [allegedly] in the Who finale this year and whom [allegedly] they will be up against.</p>
<p>As for the RT article I don&#8217;t entirely agree with the review either for similar reasons to Alden above, but I do agree that it&#8217;s perhaps not the best use of the medium when online format allows for greater flexibilityof size, colour and so forth &#8211; in fact the DW Clippings Archive does this part pretty well already. I have mixed feelings about photos in fanzines on the whole; it&#8217;s a difficult thing to do them justice sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: the_other_dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>the_other_dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And... while we are on the subject I think the winners so far in this years spoiler stakes are the TV Guide for &quot;outing&quot; the final Cylon two weeks ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And&#8230; while we are on the subject I think the winners so far in this years spoiler stakes are the TV Guide for &#8220;outing&#8221; the final Cylon two weeks ago.</p>
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		<title>By: the_other_dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>the_other_dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries - glad to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries &#8211; glad to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Alden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to argue that the article about the Radio Times coverage *is* valid and relevant for a NZ fanzine.  The average NZ fan may know all about the coverage the show is getting in the media here, but things are a lot different over in the UK, what with the Radio Times cheerfully spoiling everyone by putting Sir Topham Hat and sundry other spoilers on the cover prior to the episodes screening.

Although one might look pointedly at the Herald at this point.

And although that wasn&#039;t the main criticism of the piece in the review. :)

Oh, and thanks for pointing out the problem with the time, Dave.  Dang daylight saving!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to argue that the article about the Radio Times coverage *is* valid and relevant for a NZ fanzine.  The average NZ fan may know all about the coverage the show is getting in the media here, but things are a lot different over in the UK, what with the Radio Times cheerfully spoiling everyone by putting Sir Topham Hat and sundry other spoilers on the cover prior to the episodes screening.</p>
<p>Although one might look pointedly at the Herald at this point.</p>
<p>And although that wasn&#8217;t the main criticism of the piece in the review. <img src='https://www.zeusblog.tetrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and thanks for pointing out the problem with the time, Dave.  Dang daylight saving!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Scoones</title>
		<link>https://www.zeusblog.tetrap.com/?p=827&#038;cpage=1#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Scoones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

Fair comment about the page count. TSV 74 was actually 104 pages, so you have to go back to TSV 73 in 2006 to find a 100 page issue. The page totals will likely remain in flux from here on in. TSV used to be fixed at 100 pages per issue but I always found it a struggle to hit that target under my editorship, and removing that restriction has freed things up for Adam, I think. 

The primary reason for TSV 76&#039;s shorter length was not to do with the colour cover cost but rather that one major item intended to appear in the issue failed to arrive in time (even after a year of waiting). Not wanting to  delay the issue any further we elected at a late stage to go with a shorter page count. 

The change to single issue subscriptions was entirely my decision. There are a few reasons for this, the most important being that with long gaps between issues (which has been a problem dating back to when I was editor), I don&#039;t like making readers wait up to several years to get everything they&#039;ve paid for. Many of our sales these days come from readers who buy issue-by-issue and it made sense to me to move the remainder of the readership on to a similar same footing. So far the new arrangement seems to be working out well.

best wishes
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>Fair comment about the page count. TSV 74 was actually 104 pages, so you have to go back to TSV 73 in 2006 to find a 100 page issue. The page totals will likely remain in flux from here on in. TSV used to be fixed at 100 pages per issue but I always found it a struggle to hit that target under my editorship, and removing that restriction has freed things up for Adam, I think. </p>
<p>The primary reason for TSV 76&#8242;s shorter length was not to do with the colour cover cost but rather that one major item intended to appear in the issue failed to arrive in time (even after a year of waiting). Not wanting to  delay the issue any further we elected at a late stage to go with a shorter page count. </p>
<p>The change to single issue subscriptions was entirely my decision. There are a few reasons for this, the most important being that with long gaps between issues (which has been a problem dating back to when I was editor), I don&#8217;t like making readers wait up to several years to get everything they&#8217;ve paid for. Many of our sales these days come from readers who buy issue-by-issue and it made sense to me to move the remainder of the readership on to a similar same footing. So far the new arrangement seems to be working out well.</p>
<p>best wishes<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take the blame for the typos - sloppy spell-checking is sloppy editing!

Have to observe the irony though, of a man&#039;s adopted surname being one of the most frequently misspelled names in Who!

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take the blame for the typos &#8211; sloppy spell-checking is sloppy editing!</p>
<p>Have to observe the irony though, of a man&#8217;s adopted surname being one of the most frequently misspelled names in Who!</p>
<p> <img src='https://www.zeusblog.tetrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: the_other_dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>the_other_dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very wary of getting involved here as I&#039;m probably seen as a &quot;hostile witness&quot; but I suspect the 12 pages thing comes from:

100* - 88 = 12,

and Adam&#039;s comment here:

http://nzdwfc.tetrap.com/forums/tsv/0000447.html

(*TSV 75 can not be seen as representational as it had a colour cover too and you have to consider every other 100 page issue all the way back to #63)

&quot;I can do maffs me&quot;

I&#039;ll leave the rest to you and SD, but would ask (seeing as it has been brought up) why did you modify the page to remove subscribtions beyond the next issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very wary of getting involved here as I&#8217;m probably seen as a &#8220;hostile witness&#8221; but I suspect the 12 pages thing comes from:</p>
<p>100* &#8211; 88 = 12,</p>
<p>and Adam&#8217;s comment here:</p>
<p><a href="http://nzdwfc.tetrap.com/forums/tsv/0000447.html">http://nzdwfc.tetrap.com/forums/tsv/0000447.html</a></p>
<p>(*TSV 75 can not be seen as representational as it had a colour cover too and you have to consider every other 100 page issue all the way back to #63)</p>
<p>&#8220;I can do maffs me&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave the rest to you and SD, but would ask (seeing as it has been brought up) why did you modify the page to remove subscribtions beyond the next issue?</p>
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