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	<title>Comments on: 12 Days of Christmas &#8211; Day 6</title>
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		<title>By: Peter A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and favourite Arc is the Saxon one, for similar reasons to Jamas - it&#039;s the more subtle (though I preferred the conclusion to the Torchwood arc). 

I hadn&#039;t considered Alden&#039;s interpretation though, and if I went along those lines by far my favourite arc is a character one - how Mickey Smith found his mojo. From silly boyfriend and rejection by the Ninth Doctor to acceptance by the new Doctor (nice touch Russel!), to tin dog to preacher. He ought to have goe to Torchwood after that, but it&#039;s looking unlikely now, and at least this way his story has ebnded on a high, on his terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and favourite Arc is the Saxon one, for similar reasons to Jamas &#8211; it&#8217;s the more subtle (though I preferred the conclusion to the Torchwood arc). </p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t considered Alden&#8217;s interpretation though, and if I went along those lines by far my favourite arc is a character one &#8211; how Mickey Smith found his mojo. From silly boyfriend and rejection by the Ninth Doctor to acceptance by the new Doctor (nice touch Russel!), to tin dog to preacher. He ought to have goe to Torchwood after that, but it&#8217;s looking unlikely now, and at least this way his story has ebnded on a high, on his terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esily confused Dave, but allow me to illustrate:

Former:

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Latter (just in time for Christmas):

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esily confused Dave, but allow me to illustrate:</p>
<p>Former:</p>
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<p>Latter (just in time for Christmas):</p>
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		<title>By: the_other_dave</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm,

I could proclaim that Shadows are a type of Darkness too...

or maybe it&#039;s just a Glam Rock cameo...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm,</p>
<p>I could proclaim that Shadows are a type of Darkness too&#8230;</p>
<p>or maybe it&#8217;s just a Glam Rock cameo&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Thad Ritchards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thad Ritchards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would go for Saxon as the only arc that remained somewhat subtle then had an actual decent payoff.

As for The Darkness, there are many different shades of Darkness. Although it would be nice to think there was a decent explanation for some ultimate Darkness to come, I&#039;m not holding out any hope after Torchwood bombed it (first it was Abaddon in End of Days, then a bad CGI skeleton in A Day in the Death. Next up, out of the darkness, will be someone going &quot;Ooohhh... look at me. I&#039;m so camp and ever so evil.&quot; Yes, it will be Julian Cleary...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would go for Saxon as the only arc that remained somewhat subtle then had an actual decent payoff.</p>
<p>As for The Darkness, there are many different shades of Darkness. Although it would be nice to think there was a decent explanation for some ultimate Darkness to come, I&#8217;m not holding out any hope after Torchwood bombed it (first it was Abaddon in End of Days, then a bad CGI skeleton in A Day in the Death. Next up, out of the darkness, will be someone going &#8220;Ooohhh&#8230; look at me. I&#8217;m so camp and ever so evil.&#8221; Yes, it will be Julian Cleary&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Foo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I didn&#039;t answer the question. My favourite story arc would have to be Bad Wolf and I really thought they over egged the Christmas Pudding with Torchwood.

And yes, they should keep these arcs in future episodes but try and go a little more subtle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I didn&#8217;t answer the question. My favourite story arc would have to be Bad Wolf and I really thought they over egged the Christmas Pudding with Torchwood.</p>
<p>And yes, they should keep these arcs in future episodes but try and go a little more subtle.</p>
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		<title>By: Foo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh, Dave, that sends shivers down my spine. If that is the case it is very clever indeed. 

The problem is that &#039;the Darkness&#039; is significantly vague to mean Bad Wolf in Series One, The Master in Series Three, and the effects of the Reality Bomb in Series Four. 

I guess this is the more subtle linking that I was after in my post for Day 4 of the 12 Days of Christmas. Only a couple of days until we find out if we get the pay off we deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, Dave, that sends shivers down my spine. If that is the case it is very clever indeed. </p>
<p>The problem is that &#8216;the Darkness&#8217; is significantly vague to mean Bad Wolf in Series One, The Master in Series Three, and the effects of the Reality Bomb in Series Four. </p>
<p>I guess this is the more subtle linking that I was after in my post for Day 4 of the 12 Days of Christmas. Only a couple of days until we find out if we get the pay off we deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: the_other_dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>the_other_dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, now are we talking the overt Bad Wolf/Torchwood/Saxon/&quot;Summat on your back&quot; arcs, or the more subtle thematic arcs as Alden has noted (I&#039;ve already covered my take on what season one Really means many RTPS ago).

Sooo, my pick for favourite is the one I don&#039;t think has been revealed yet...  

What is THE DARKNESS?

Mentioned by Gweneth and the Dalek in reference to Rose I thought originally it might have been something to do with Bad Wolf, but as there were a few more references over time (&quot;something moving in the Dark&quot; on Torchwood, I became less sure.  The Toclafane witter on about the coming Darkness (at the end of the Universe?), and in Turn Left _A_ Rose tells Donna that the Darkness is comming (though as noted peviously that Darkness couldn&#039;t have been Davros in a universe were there no Doctor to send Caan back to save him)

and now the Darkness heralds the end of time.

...

now wether this actually means there will be a decent payoff has yet to be seen, and as for the furture, well, if we can have a story arc as successfully &quot;whimey&quot; as (say) Blink, why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, now are we talking the overt Bad Wolf/Torchwood/Saxon/&#8221;Summat on your back&#8221; arcs, or the more subtle thematic arcs as Alden has noted (I&#8217;ve already covered my take on what season one Really means many RTPS ago).</p>
<p>Sooo, my pick for favourite is the one I don&#8217;t think has been revealed yet&#8230;  </p>
<p>What is THE DARKNESS?</p>
<p>Mentioned by Gweneth and the Dalek in reference to Rose I thought originally it might have been something to do with Bad Wolf, but as there were a few more references over time (&#8220;something moving in the Dark&#8221; on Torchwood, I became less sure.  The Toclafane witter on about the coming Darkness (at the end of the Universe?), and in Turn Left _A_ Rose tells Donna that the Darkness is comming (though as noted peviously that Darkness couldn&#8217;t have been Davros in a universe were there no Doctor to send Caan back to save him)</p>
<p>and now the Darkness heralds the end of time.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>now wether this actually means there will be a decent payoff has yet to be seen, and as for the furture, well, if we can have a story arc as successfully &#8220;whimey&#8221; as (say) Blink, why not?</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one!
I&#039;m going to go for the tenth Doctor&#039;s hand, from serving as Jack&#039;s Doctor detector, to being instrumental in turning the Doctor into Tweety Pie, then going all frothy in the proximity of Ms G Moffet, and finally growing a new Doctor - it&#039;s certainly worked for it&#039;s keep!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one!<br />
I&#8217;m going to go for the tenth Doctor&#8217;s hand, from serving as Jack&#8217;s Doctor detector, to being instrumental in turning the Doctor into Tweety Pie, then going all frothy in the proximity of Ms G Moffet, and finally growing a new Doctor &#8211; it&#8217;s certainly worked for it&#8217;s keep!</p>
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		<title>By: Alden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ninth Doctor slowly regaining his faith in humanity.  I&#039;m sure future Who will keep doing story arcs, and that&#039;s OK by me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ninth Doctor slowly regaining his faith in humanity.  I&#8217;m sure future Who will keep doing story arcs, and that&#8217;s OK by me. <img src='https://www.zeusblog.tetrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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