We Should Be So Lucky…

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I’ll admit that when I first read on Outpost Gallifrey this week that Kylie Minogue was to star in the 2007 Christmas Special, my heart did sink a little. I mean, the idea of a pop star with little acting experience having a major role on Doctor Who is just inconceivable! Oh yeah… that’s right…

Thinking about it a little further though, whilst all the predictable calls of ‘stunt-casting!’ scream out from the message boards, perhaps, my fellow fans, it really wouldn’t be as bad as all that. We’ve had former Top of the Pops and Blue Peter hosts turn up and the sky hasn’t fallen in. We’ve had high-profile comediennes taking centre stage and the show hasn’t suffered (well.. some people think so, but I loved Ms Tate’s appearance).

We’ve even had the ultimate in Billie Piper – who would have thought, bar her turn in the The Canterbury Tales, that the same person who once sang the words ‘Honey To The Bee, That’s You For Me’ would be a hugely important part of the success of the new series.

So if, as unlikely as it may seem, Ms Minogue does end up having a role in the Christmas Special this year, Cyberwoman or otherwise, let’s hold fire on heralding the apocalypse until we actually see her.

And yes, I’ve seen Biodome.

JP

18 Responses to “We Should Be So Lucky…”

  1. Thad Ritchards Says:

    “let’s hold fire on heralding the apocalypse until we actually see her.”

    *snerk* Yeah, that’ll happen. ;)

  2. parkypants Says:

    I hear you, but goodness… wouldn’t it be refreshing…

  3. Foo Says:

    Hey Jono, I agree with you. I’m sure Kylie appearing won’t be the end of the world, and as you point out, previous actresses have been regarded as questionable choices but have then put in pretty damn good performances.

  4. Paul Scoones Says:

    The report about Kylie appearing in Doctor Who appears to originate in the News of the World tabloid which isn’t renowned for its attention to accuracy. I think we ought to wait for a confirmation from the BBC before getting excited or upset, depending on your opinion of Ms Minogue.

    And if it is true, then let’s not forget that Kyle had a hugely successful career as an actress before becoming the pop phenomenon she is today. She’s also a Doctor Who fan herself so I’m fairly sure she’d take the part seriously.

  5. Peter A Says:

    As a SOAP actress. And she’s not famous for that now. She’s famous for being a poptart with a golden arse. Or something.

    I dunno. There’s something about this that absolutely screams stunt casting, and when you cast someone of Ms Minogue’s stature and following in family entertainment, you’re virtually asking her to play herself. That’s the differejnce between her and Billie Piper – Billy played a character, Kylie will be the ‘special guest star’. Moreover, and if you believe the NotW which as Paul points out takes a ‘creative’ approach to journalism, if Kylie’s to play a Cyberwoman we might expect to see her in the Torchwood’s-Lisa style rather than the Yvonne Hartman style.

    The jury’s out, it’s early days and maybe none of this will come to pass. But it worries me.

  6. Thad Ritchards Says:

    I just realised. She won’t be playing an evil Cyberwoman (evil? isn’t that redundant? and aren’t female Cybers called Cybermen anyway?), she’ll be playing… a grown up Rose, come back to the Doctor! NNOOO!!!!

  7. Paul Scoones Says:

    Of course Kylie is a former soap actress, but the same can be said of a great many of the cast of New Doctor Who have most notably been soap stars – including Freema, who was previously best known for her role in Crossroads.

    I feel like it’s 2004 all over again; replace “Kylie” with “Billie” and it seems like we’re having the same discussion all over again – and yes, I was very dubious about whether Billie was a good choice at the time. She proved me wrong, and it’s possible that whatever her billing in pre-publicity, Kylie may do the same. I’m keeping an open mind.

  8. Peter A Says:

    I’m still highly suspicious if it turns out to be true. As I said before, there is a difference between Minogue and Piper – Piper was in for the long haul, fans had a season to get to now and love her character. This is a short-term appearance more on a par with Catherine Tate or Peter Kaye, and brings to my mind the casting of Sylvester Stallone as Judge Dredd. He could play the part and was a good draw for top billing, but the compromise was that the helmet had to come off – QED he was playing Action Stallone.

    Bille came from relative zero in acting reputation when she joined the series and in a way had less to lose with the risk. Kylie has a brand to maintain.

    I don’t have an issue with the soap angle really – as you say, the series has had soap actors in it since the early days. But the combo of soap actor plus Christmas Special has a certain scary alchemy to it.

    And I don’t think I’m going to see my Ice Warriors, dammit!

  9. Foo Says:

    Kylie as a female Ice Warrior? Lots of make up a la Sarah Parish, Mars mentioned twice in previous Christmas specials…news that she is going to be a Cyberwoman to throw us off the scent – it all fits – and if it doesn’t just use a bigger hammer.

  10. Peter A Says:

    i love kylie

  11. Peter A Says:

    Cheers for that Bridge.

  12. Timb Says:

    You building bridges there P?

    Or maybe burning them perhaps ;)

  13. Peter A Says:

    Clearly I’m thanking someone for giving me one. Er, a Bridge, I mean!

    Nice to see your name on here Timbo :)

  14. Peter A Says:

    Interesting. According to OG, Rusty has refuted the Kylie claim. Whether or not that’s true at this stage is I guess open to interpretation. BUt it doesn’t half make the likes of Stuff.co.nz (‘Kylie cast in new Dr Who story’) look stupid.

  15. Paul Scoones Says:

    Stuff.co.nz is indeed looking stupid, and so are a whole swag of other news media around the world. It’s indicative of the lazy state of journalism these days that news stories concocted from the flimiest of rumours will be picked up and run by the news media without any fact-checking or additional research.

    I remember a few years ago the news reports on an Auckland radio station that Doctor Who was about to return to TV with a new Doctor and that the opening scenes were going to be filmed in New Zealand, on location at Ruapehu. After a few moments of incredulity it dawned on me that they were actually referring to Scream of the Shalka!

  16. Peter A Says:

    As depressing as it sounds, maybe we shouldn’t be surprised. This is the same media that on covering SF conventions will automatically train its cameras and microphones on THAT subset of fandom… you know the one I’m talking about <:/

  17. Paul Scoones Says:

    I’ve witnessed journalists persuading fans to ‘act up’ for the cameras so as to make them appear even more “weird” and “kooky”. Sadly, there will always be certain fans at conventions all too willing to comply.

    On a wider scale, it bothers me that just about everything I’ve ever been personally involved in (not just SF) that has been reported by the news media has included incorrect facts and/or wrong names, so it really makes me despair for the acuracy of news reporting in general.

  18. Foo Says:

    And it looks like the rumour is actually true! I’m sure she’ll be ace. But not necessarily Sophie Aldred’s Ace.
    That Tricky RTD.

    It still doesn’t excuse the sloppy state of journalism these days though.

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